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I have read in the past, before I came to work at Blue World Pools, about complaints against Blue World Pools. The texture of them and the way they were written I dismissed as just a disgruntled employee or a consumer that did not have a full understanding of everything. The amount of discovered complaints are about what I would have expected to see on a company this size. Little did I know that what I was able to find was actually just the tip of the ice burg for what was going to happen to me.

I can assure you that this is not the case with me. Please take the time to read this in its entirety, as it is detailed and factual, as I have expounded with dates, transactions and specific dollar amounts.

In Feb 2008, I answered an ad from Blue World Pools seeking outside closers. The ad indicated good earnings potential. I have a $2200.00 mortgage as well as 2 car payments equaling $1200.00 per month. I have made decent money in the past and have set records everyplace I have worked.

I talked to a recruiter that told me about earning of $2000.00 - $3000.00 per week, which sounded fine to me. I discounted this by 50% to make up for company exaggeration, and would still provide me with $6,000.00 per month income of which is what I need. I had no question of my ability to sell this or any other product.

I was scheduled for a training class on Feb 13th, 14th and 15th. This class, the trainer, Jeff, again stressed the same earnings potential. After this, before we received an employee agreement, we were made to write a check for $150.00 for our training material and presentation kit. If we did not pay it at this time, we had to leave. I paid, as did the other 20 people in the class. Additionally you had to purchase a fax machine to use from peoples homes. This is a cost of about $100.00.

The next day we received our employment agreements as well as commission schedule. This indicated that you would only receive about 50% of your commission at the time the pool was released. It was also explained that as time went on the balances would be paid totaling about 75% of the commission. This sounded ok as I have a history of producing so I was not concerned about the earnings. The agreement also contained a provision of hold back until the end of the year to be paid as a bonus only if you are still an employee of the company. If you leave for any reason, they will keep this money. (It is a deduction from your earned commission and not a true bonus.)

We were also told by Jeff that when we left on Saturday some of us would have leads to run that afternoon and that the ones that did not get a lead Saturday, would have some Sunday. Additionally it was indicated that if we wanted to due a temporary lack of leads we could travel to different market places that was short a rep.

I finally received my first leads days later that produced 1 sale and one appointment cancelled. After going several days without any appointments, I asked where they could send me to that was producing leads. I was sent to Montgomery Alabama initially and then to Johnson City Tn. I drove many days as much as 500 miles making my appointments and returning to the hotel. I left many mornings at 7:30 to make a 10:00 appointment and then had appointments as late as 8:30 and got back to the hotel at 1:00.

While they had me working out of Johnson City Tn. I covered Tn, Va, and Kentucky as well as N.C. the same scenario was in play here as it was in Alabama.

From March 1, 2008 when I ran my first appointment to May 4th, I sold a total of 20 pools. My total pay earned was $6900.00 however, my total received is only $3222.10 with a “bonus” due of $3000.00, which I will never receive because I am not with the company. I spent $2475.00 in fuel and vehicle expenses including 3 oil changes because of mileage.

As represented, by the recruiters and Jeff the trainer the average commission is $900.00. If that were a true statement I would have earned not less then $18,000.00, a livable wage as that would break down for 2 months of earnings netting about $6500.00 after expenses and taxes. I did not even earn half that amount. In some cases, I received as little as $73.55. (A detail of earning per unit will follow)

The commission structure as represented to us is as follows 50% above par or 5% on in house financing (Which winds up being 100% of the time. It seems that I never met anyone that had decent enough credit to be bought by any number of our available finance companies)

Customer 1 sold 03/1 for $11,721.00 paid 436.05, and should have been $586.05.

Customer 2 sold 03/6 for $13,721.00 paid $536.05, and should have been $686.05.

Customer 3 sold 03/8 for $16,321.00 paid $275.00, and should have been $1300.00 (50% over par).

Customer 4 sold 03/11 for $13,721.00 was turned down even thought they claim that due to in house financing there are no turndowns.

Customer 5 sold 03/12 for $11,721.00 paid $200.00, and should have been $585.05.

Customer 6 sold 03/15 for $10,961.00 was cancelled and then the company called a couple of days later and they saved it but cut me out of the commission because of it canceling.

Customer 7 sold 03/20 for $11,721.00 paid $300.00, and should have been $585.05.

Customer 8 sold 03/21 for $10,471.00 paid $73.55, and should have been $523.55.

Customer 9 sold 03/25 for $15,721.00 paid $250.00, and should have been $1001.50 (50% over par).

Customer 10 sold 03/27 for $15,721.00 paid $250.00, and should have been $1001.50 (50% over par).

Customer 11 sold 03/29 for $17,521.00 paid $000.00, and should have been $1900.00 (50% over par).

Customer 12 sold 04/4 for $9,999.00 paid $200.00, and should have been $1000.00 (50% over par.)

Customer 13 sold 04/12 for $13,721.00 paid $250.00, and should have been $686.05.

Customer 14 sold 04/13 for $15,021.00 paid $250.00, and should have been $650.00 (50% over par)

Customer 15 sold 04/19 for $8934.00 paid $000.00, and should have been $446.70.

Customer 16 sold 04/22 for $10471.00 paid $000.00, and should have been $523.55.

Customer 17 sold 04/23 for $16321.00 paid $000.00, and should have been $1300.00 (50% over par)

I had 3 cancellations involved totaling 20 sales.

Additionally there are several people that they called later in the week, after I had been to the home and made a 3-hour presentation, and sold for less money. This cut me out of the loop entirely for commission paid.

After being kept away from my family, I did request to take me back home. I was made to stay on the road for an additional 7 days before they would send me home. Upon arrival at my home area, I went several days without receiving any appointments at all. They, since I was no longer willing to travel, effectively forced me to quit but not providing me appointments. I was told by Mike Maloney that I needed to be aware that all monies held would not be paid to me, as they were actually bonuses and not my commissions earned. Additionally any appointments that would be provided normally I would be fined for and taken out of any money that might be owed to me in commissions. (I find this rather interesting, as there weren’t any appointments for me in the 10 days prior to this and suddenly upon my departure, they are slammed with 4 appointments a day for me. So they can levy a 250.00 fine against me for not running them. (They require a 7-day notice or will fine you for missed appointments)

They really took me. I fell for ‘PIE IN THE SKY’. What’s bad is I should know better. I worked hard for this company to be stolen from.

The promises made are just that. Empty promises. I made amounts of commissions that were well below stated commissions that we were told could be earned. Additionally any contract that could not be sent to outside financing and were kept for in house financing, we would get only 5% of instead of 50% over par on those qualifying contracts. Little did I know that all of my clients would be in house financing. This allows the company to pay less to the sales representative and make 25% interest from the client over a course of 7-10 years. IE:Comission example, a pool selling for $17,521.00 should pay the salesperson $1900.00. With in house financing, I would receive only 5% of the sales amount that in the stated example would only pay me $876.05. As you can see from before that this happened to me at least 1 time.

They are a large company that is set up and geared for them to make money. They misrepresent most things to you as a salesperson. Additionally they request you to lie to the potential clients from the beginning of the sales presentation stating that Blue World has been in business for 28 years, (they have not) all the way to a show pool discount that is nothing more then a gimmick. In addition, they tell you not to leave all of the customer signed forms with the customer, specifically the high cost section 32 mortgage disclosure stating that there is a mortgage on their house and the document that tells about the ability to cancel.

This company is amazing in that their format is actually to commit fraud on an ongoing basis. This is evident from the beginning of hiring sales people in February to the way sales are effected.

I personally know another person from the Orlando Florida area that this very same thing has happened to. I also truly believe that we are not isolated incidents.

I am ultimately going to file a report with the appropriate attorneys generals in the respective state that I worked in as well as Nevada as they are incorporated in that state.

We are not permitted to provide our e-mail address or phone number in the body of the text here at this site. However, if you signup with them (There is not a fee) you will be able to obtain all of my contact information as I have given them permission to forward to all that request it.

I am interested in hearing from anyone that has had an issue with Blue World Pools either through their unscrupulous sales tactics or as an employee. Additionally I am seeking an attorney that would be interested in looking into this further to contact me referencing a possible lawsuit and ultimately a class action lawsuit.

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hmougey
#168194

EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME. I WANT TO FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR THE $25 BONUS PER APPOINTMENT NOT PAID TO ME.

Anonymous
#158016

Please contact me regarding blue world pools..THANKS!

pinkdubeck@aol.com

thinkster7
#130845

Hey there Greg, Give me a shout at thinkster7@yahoo.com.. we need to talk..asap

Anonymous
#74838

Any body from louisiana? Would like to hear from you.

My Mom is 78 years old and was scammed by BLUE WORLD POOLS.S he has a morgage on her house now for $20,000.

Call your att. general.

Anonymous
#73214

Yes, everything that is written buy consumers here is true. I worked for them for 2 weeks until I found out how they were treating the customers. They can't keep good employees, that's why it takes so long for them to make/keep the appointments.

They also have a full-time person who's only job is to answer all bad press and internet complaints to make it appear as though they are a legitamate, good company. They buy new website addresses all the time to refute all allogations

and put bogus info on it to make it sound legit. Horrible company with too much money to fail.

They are a terrible company that has already been banned in a number of states, including Georgia, their H.O. location. That should tell you something about their business practices.

They also hide behind a Nevada address that is known to be difficult to access to help you run out of the 3 day cancellation period, so you'll be stuck with the pool and contract.

They sell pools for 6-8 months and then go into the real estate business the rest of the year due to the liens placed on property.

JHolder
Weber City, Virginia, United States #20533

Well here goes..The salesman already came out I got the wonderful call about the great free upgrade I will be getting but the installers have not showed up yet?

Can anyone give me any advice???please contact me preston.jenniferholder at yahoo dot com Im in jena louisiana 318-316-2903

Anonymous
Erode, Tamil Nadu, India #17597

:( I REALLY WAS TRYING TO TALK MY HUSBAND INTO THEIR $399.00 POOL.MY HUSBAND POURS CONCRETE FOR A LIVING , AND WANTS TO DO AN INGROUND POOL.

I THOUGHT $399.00 DIDN'T SOUND BAD TILL WE GOT THE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR CONCRETE . NOW AFTER SEEING ALL THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEM , I AM REALLY MAD . PEOPLE DON'T THINK THAT BY SCAMMING OTHER PEOPLE THEY ARE ONLY MAKING THE ECONOMY WORSE . WHAT HAPPENED TO TREATING OTHERS LIKE YOU WANTED TO BE TREATED .

AND WHY ARE THEY STILL IN BUSINESS....

I SEE THEIR AD ABOUT EVERY OTHER DAY ON T.V...

Anonymous
Denver, Kentucky, United States #13372

Exactly what is it that Blue World Pools does to customers that is unethical. From their commercials something certainly seems very odd (A pool fully installed with fitlers, etc, dc for $#399.)

What do they do.

briandavissr
Verona, Wisconsin, United States #11827

I would like to contact you about this GREGORY1.I am in the consumer position with BWP at this very moment!

I don't see where I can contact you on here, but you can get me via my website if my email address gets blocked from this post. brian at groundfighters dot com is or go to www.groundfighters.com and fill out the webcontact form. I can talk via email or phone, which ever is easier for you.

Or anyone else that is going through this mess i.e.mizrebecca!!!

Anonymous
Fountain City, Wisconsin, United States #11598

I too was a rep for BWP.The same thing happened to me but all I have rec'd is about $500 that barely covered gas.

I turned this company in to my states Attorney General and also went to my local tv station which aired the story last night and cancelled BWP ads on their station. If we can't get them we can at least shut their ads down. I feel like I myself have deceived the nice families I sold pools too. It is sad that in this day in time that a company can continue to get away with this.

Check out some other sites and you will find that they have operated under several names due to complaints with BBB. I am willing to talk to anyone about this, as long as you only tell what happened to you they have no legal leg to stand on. I spoke with my attorney yesterday before speaking with the media.

Something has to be done.This nation is already in a housing crisis and this is only adding to it.

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